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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:36 pm 
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Wow, kardiaescorpii, I don't know how many times Milanor and I have to say this...but your word does not overrule the word of an admin, clearly it was posted (in Andrew's trademarked green ;)) that it is a form of abuse to invite someone merely for the use of their resources and kick them right after.

And Peaches, I don't think it was a good idea for you to "butt in", because what you posted was completely irrelevant. Sure, Milanor left ROTF, sure, he joined GODS, which at the time was their enemy, but what could he have accomplished in ROTF?, with, as he stated before a "one man team".

Kesther was attempting to control the whole team, and he nearly did, and what happened?, he got all of their armies killed, so Milanor, being one of the few whose army didn't get killed, escaped being conquered by joining the dominant alliance, can't say I would have done different. And he DID wait to attack them, and in no way back-stabbed, backstabbing is leaving and attacking the alliance immediately (which, by the way isn't even cheating, just an extremely cheap way to gain score); he relocated, left, sent his army to GODS territory, joined GODS, and THEN he went to get the leftover scraps on ROTF, which wasn't very much.

But that's a whole different world, don't know why you brought it up in the F3 topics, especially when everything you said was a lie.

Back to kardiaescorpii, if they did such teeeerrible things, why aren't they banned?, why is their whole team intact?, because they don't cheat and play fair, if they were cheating an admin would find out, they have their job for a reason, it's because they're good at it.


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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU, AYC
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:46 pm 
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wow milanor... dont u guys get tired of being such hypocrits? u guys do much worse things and dont get punished...
besides... its not against the rules to have a friend join u, spend his resources, and then leave (not get kicked)
and complaining about our allies when we finally have them in war after having fought all of u for over 1000+ticks...??? stop crying EVIL/BoZo/EV1L/VILE/B0Z0
I just want to point out that EVIL alliance are not cheaters - we play "fair" considering the fact that some of us are Battle Dawn representatives and we all respect the rules and regulations.

We are strongly against cheaters.


i could agree with u... i never accused EVIL cause i still dont have the proofs...
but something is true about EVIL... they are the real backstabbers...
Shadower just called us backstabbers, when we attacked an enemy that was allied with EPIC and then backstabbed them...
unless... EPIC was just a tool to get crystals and relics so that EVIL/BoZo could easily grab them (since most EPIC just joined their subs or runned away)... just an assumption that only they know if its true or not...
well WU never betrayed any of their allies and does not intend to... and main reason why (as Shadower says "the whole world") is helping us is because we have been friendly with them and let them develop as alliances...


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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:47 pm 
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100% agree with u nelo angelo, i hate cheaters and i feel great knowing that i've never done anything against the rules.

i've suffered cheating abuse before, one time .. a player with multi accounts attaked me starting a world, by the time he sent a few attacks from 3 different castles he got banned but not his army so i suffered the attack, i lost a lot of units and fall in the rank and i didnt recived my army or resources back, so i know what ur talking about.


You say that you hate cheaters, yet you were in alliance that the Admin said was cheating. Then directed more at Druide's very weak defense you can't even debate it as cheating, because as Chaos said your word does not overrule the Admin's. You were, without a doubt, cheating.


so far the only one banned for cheating abuse is oldben and we didnt know anything about what he was doing, we knew that something was happening but well we didnt know.

now u can call druide cheater because of his other post but as long as i dont see more ppl banned in my alliance i'll still trust in them, so leave that decition to the admin not to ur own judge because u never know what might be happening but the admin does know and if there is any other abuse then i'll wait for the bans, for now we're not cheater's (including myself cause im part of the alliance).


The others refer to the ones that have been banned in the past and deleted...and I can only remember one name and it was irewiind or some sort..

- Even then...some of those allies are calling you sad behind your back and are even believing themselves as cheaters or 'cheap'... I won't say names, but theres a couple... might wanna think up on that

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:50 pm 
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The thing about that is who chose to decide I wasn't actually going to be playing that server? I hadn't logged in in maybe 2 days, however, I also hadn't logged into my other 2 worlds in the same amount of time. With everything going on in RL I had only had the time to concentrate on M2. If you'll remember I stated before that M2 is my only serious world .. the others are purely for fun .. and guess what .. I hadn't had time for that.

So my question is .. Who was the one who decided that I hadn't intended to keep playing on that world? No one can know my intentions but me, and since no one bothered to inquire of me what my intentions were I find this whole mess appalling.

Now, what you've told me about you reporting kesther is unbelievable to me. You're telling me that no one NO ONE has investigated him? You've reported it to whom? You said you told the mods, did you report it to the admin's? If so .. who? Have you reported it this round of M2? I would like to know the answers to these questions, because it's not looking very good for the BD staff at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
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so far the only one banned for cheating abuse is oldben and we didnt know anything about what he was doing, we knew that something was happening but well we didnt know.

now u can call druide cheater because of his other post but as long as i dont see more ppl banned in my alliance i'll still trust in them, so leave that decition to the admin not to ur own judge because u never know what might be happening but the admin does know and if there is any other abuse then i'll wait for the bans, for now we're not cheater's (including myself cause im part of the alliance).


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The others refer to the ones that have been banned in the past and deleted...and I can only remember one name and it was irewiind or some sort..

- Even then...some of those allies are calling you sad behind your back and are even believing themselves as cheaters or 'cheap'... I won't say names, but theres a couple... might wanna think up on that



i dont know what happened on the past, im interested on the present.

also i dont care what ppl might say behind my back, that means theyre just cowards so ... doesnt really matter, im here, they can talk with me im not gonna eat/bite them lol.

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:00 pm 
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so far the only one banned for cheating abuse is oldben and we didnt know anything about what he was doing, we knew that something was happening but well we didnt know.

now u can call druide cheater because of his other post but as long as i dont see more ppl banned in my alliance i'll still trust in them, so leave that decition to the admin not to ur own judge because u never know what might be happening but the admin does know and if there is any other abuse then i'll wait for the bans, for now we're not cheater's (including myself cause im part of the alliance).


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The others refer to the ones that have been banned in the past and deleted...and I can only remember one name and it was irewiind or some sort..



i dont know what happened on the past, im interested on the present.

also i dont care what ppl might say behind my back, that means theyre just cowards so ... doesnt really matter, im here, they can talk with me im not gonna eat/bite them lol.


But the past is what you should be fixing now -- that was players being banned, and one more.. (OldBen), okay enough about that. And if your so called allies are saying this to you behind your back...should they or...are they really your allies in the end?

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:07 pm 
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so far the only one banned for cheating abuse is oldben and we didnt know anything about what he was doing, we knew that something was happening but well we didnt know.

now u can call druide cheater because of his other post but as long as i dont see more ppl banned in my alliance i'll still trust in them, so leave that decition to the admin not to ur own judge because u never know what might be happening but the admin does know and if there is any other abuse then i'll wait for the bans, for now we're not cheater's (including myself cause im part of the alliance).


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The others refer to the ones that have been banned in the past and deleted...and I can only remember one name and it was irewiind or some sort..



i dont know what happened on the past, im interested on the present.

also i dont care what ppl might say behind my back, that means theyre just cowards so ... doesnt really matter, im here, they can talk with me im not gonna eat/bite them lol.


But the past is what you should be fixing now -- that was players being banned, and one more.. (OldBen), okay enough about that. And if your so called allies are saying this to you behind your back...should they or...are they really your allies in the end?



sorry, but im not agree with u, maybe in the past there was a lot of banned ppl, i dont know... i care about the present because i know or at least i trust on the ppl that i know in my alliance, good friends, good coordination, good leader, if there is another cheater i'll be surprised but i know there are no cheaters left. so the past stay in the past, the present is what really matters.

about the "friends", thats up to them... i dont care, if they want to backstabb us, go ahead, wont be the first time something like that happens in bd, wish them luck... if they survive.

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:16 am 
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Now, what you've told me about you reporting kesther is unbelievable to me. You're telling me that no one NO ONE has investigated him? You've reported it to whom? You said you told the mods, did you report it to the admin's? If so .. who? Have you reported it this round of M2? I would like to know the answers to these questions, because it's not looking very good for the BD staff at this point.

i know for sure i haven't gotten any reports, not that i could have done anything but told the admins anyway, no other mods can really do anything ingame, but if the mod you told it to can be pm'ed to me it would be nice so i could talk to him

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i've seen alot of discussion about donators having "atvantages", so i made a topic to actualy discuss it, so keep the donator thing there:
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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU, AYC
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:54 am 
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kardiaescorpii wrote:
i could agree with u... i never accused EVIL cause i still dont have the proofs...
but something is true about EVIL... they are the real backstabbers...
Shadower just called us backstabbers, when we attacked an enemy that was allied with EPIC and then backstabbed them...
unless... EPIC was just a tool to get crystals and relics so that EVIL/BoZo could easily grab them (since most EPIC just joined their subs or runned away)... just an assumption that only they know if its true or not...
well WU never betrayed any of their allies and does not intend to... and main reason why (as Shadower says "the whole world") is helping us is because we have been friendly with them and let them develop as alliances...


Just some additional information; EVIL did not backstabbed EPIC - we were merely allies but when your ally attacks your outposts on a large scale then friendship amongst those alliances is not in the question in which we then sided with BoZo against them, they knew the consequences and payed the price as a result.

WU did backstab - Whilst EVIL/BoZo/WU leaders were in discussion of an extended NAP - WU then decides to attack us during that immediate NAP we had with at least 2 ticks to go, try and justify the attacks you made on us and how it doesn't relate to the subject of "backstabbing" ?

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 Post subject: Re: BoZo/EVIL & Subs vs CARE, WTC, WU, AYC
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kardiaescorpii wrote:
i could agree with u... i never accused EVIL cause i still dont have the proofs...
but something is true about EVIL... they are the real backstabbers...
Shadower just called us backstabbers, when we attacked an enemy that was allied with EPIC and then backstabbed them...
unless... EPIC was just a tool to get crystals and relics so that EVIL/BoZo could easily grab them (since most EPIC just joined their subs or runned away)... just an assumption that only they know if its true or not...
well WU never betrayed any of their allies and does not intend to... and main reason why (as Shadower says "the whole world") is helping us is because we have been friendly with them and let them develop as alliances...


Just some additional information; EVIL did not backstabbed EPIC - we were merely allies but when your ally attacks your outposts on a large scale then friendship amongst those alliances is not in the question in which we then sided with BoZo against them, they knew the consequences and payed the price as a result.

WU did backstab - Whilst EVIL/BoZo/WU leaders were in discussion of an extended NAP - WU then decides to attack us during that immediate NAP we had with at least 2 ticks to go, try and justify the attacks you made on us and how it doesn't relate to the subject of "backstabbing" ?



wow... i wonder kind of brain could think that attacking while nap was supposedly being negotiated is backstabbing... Kristin never agreed to a nap, and u guys were the ones asking for the extention...


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