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 Post subject: Re: The Deciding war, and the fate of F4
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:09 am 
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Just had to come and read this fine thread started by Sinister/Sigmund or whatever you call yourself . Honestly don't really care abut any other alliances issues. But I will say once again for all to hear. We came to this round to simply be a bit more active but with no designs on trying to take out anyone. HORD is an acronym started by Skip and myself and whenever Skip plays I have always vowed to never take arms against him. The current roster of HORD is not made up of the original members but guess what each and every one of them are stand up guys in my book and I proudly call them family. As far as GeNs and Now JeNs , Greenbay has been forthright with me for more rounds than I can remember. He has been a good friend and has more than earned my respect. All the others in the original GeNs were also quite close with us. When fighting started between our family in HORD and our other close friends in GeNs we did not get involved. and the greatest thing is neither of them asked us to take up arms against the other. That carried over to the current JeNs. Boredom is a stand up leader too that has more than earned my respect. We have stayed in the loop and not once were we asked to enter the fray.

Now onto the reason I have such malice for SiN. Early on 4 of my guys were attacked and conquered by a SiN member playing as The King. Though he was contacted and asked to liberate the lads as we had no hostile intentions , we never even got a reply. Not even a "pizz off" , well it is a well know fact that personally I can't stand pissants and because of this guys standoffish attitude I rallied the troops. We decided to get a bit more serious. The lads rebelled and we went to war with SiNs. We decided to concentrate on getting the relics and grabbed 4 rather quickly. In case some of you forget, RELICS WIN ROUNDS. we entered into a fragile peace with SiN but I was getting screen shots daily of different members of SiN plotting to have others attack us. I was sure to keep them all. I was also messaged by many talking about the arrogance that seemed to drip off these pissants. They had pretty much turned on ever group they had made deals with out of "crystal envy". I contacted everyone on F4 that I have known for many rounds. I have stated and will once again openly state. My entire reason for playing this round is dedicated for only one reason. To be sure SiN does not win. PERIOD. I can give tw shakes of a rat's azz what happens to me and my army. I will not stop fighting and harassing SiN forces. Until my last unit and all my resources are expended. Granted I would like for my lads to get the win for the round now that they have come together and put forth a major effort. But honestly without all of our brothers and sisters in AOD, XPD2, GeNs, JeNs, Hord, TBD, MW hell there are many others and I don't mean to slight anyone but without everyone pitching in the entire round would have turned so chaotic we'd never be able to concentrate on SiN. BTW, there are a few in SiN that I have been or gotten to close to and Zaros and Skizzy both of you guys deserve a thumbs up in my book. Sigmund, you also put forth a major effort and have my respect. Messy I think you have just been saddled with a couple , well I won't use colorful language to describe a certain few but hey it's all just a game and I enjoy playing it. This round more so because I want to make it not enjoyable for a certain few. Lastly, Boredom, NOLA, Greenbay, Skip, Random, Air Force I will continue to do my best to serve you up the targets you so rightly deserve. I'm ringing the dinner bell so come and get it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Deciding war, and the fate of F4
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:27 pm 
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So, let me get this straight. You are basing the general behaviour of a ragtag band of misfits that organized their alliance one day before the start of the era on one player that wasn't active and was removed really early on? :?


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 Post subject: Re: The Deciding war, and the fate of F4
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:07 pm 
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Moridin119 wrote:
@Knuckledragger
So, let me get this straight. You are basing the general behaviour of a ragtag band of misfits that organized their alliance one day before the start of the era on one player that wasn't active and was removed really early on? :?


And this is why you gotta be careful on who you take in. ;)

One bad apple ruins the bunch, especially when it comes to relations between alliances.


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 Post subject: Re: The Deciding war, and the fate of F4
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:38 pm 
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Rjgatorslayr wrote:
Moridin119 wrote:
@Knuckledragger
So, let me get this straight. You are basing the general behaviour of a ragtag band of misfits that organized their alliance one day before the start of the era on one player that wasn't active and was removed really early on? :?


And this is why you gotta be careful on who you take in. ;)

One bad apple ruins the bunch, especially when it comes to relations between alliances.

It isn't really a bad apple if all he does is not reply. All Knuckle would of had to do would be to message Sigmund, who was the leader at the time, which seems to have not happened. Otherwise TheKing would have been kicked and conquered much earlier, and replaced with a person that actually played the game more than checking in once every 3 days. He was once up to 100 ticks offline.
As far as we knew, Knuckledragger and the rest of XPND attacked us out of the blue without a declaration of war. The timing also seemed perfect to make XPND seem like a sub of Jens. After they took territory from us via what appeared to be a backstab, we tried to protect ourselves from them by trying to get others to attack them as we had bigger targets elsewhere. XPND was never trusted after that initial war, and so we treated them as they treated us.

We tried to extend the olive branch a few times, yet those were mostly batted away by the "XPND will suicide for Jens" and "XPND is Jens Sub" arguements.

The server as I see it:
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We started this era allied to Jens against HORD(even tohugh I worked with my neighbors that were HORD), this changed when Greenbay claimed that my territory was his, I had the forsight to relocate my colony, and while I was at work, Jens decided to completely annex my starting territory. XPND attacked us I think somewhere around this time. Soon after a ceasefire was signed with Jens and an alliance formed with HORD as everyone else moved up to deal with XPND. A plan to attack Jens 100 ticks before the ceasefire was over was agreed upon while HORD kept on fighting Jens. A treaty was signed with XPND granting them the territory they had managed to seize from us in their backstab.

Our planned time of attack began and we moved our forces up to the front line, just to find out as our first spams began to go out, that Jens got obliterated by HORD. I proceeded to go down into the Southern continent and push against the 2-3 members that were still there for several days, and didn't get reinforced until after I had killed one of them and the other two had fled. I had retaken my spawning area. The entire continent. I held it until right before the last relics dropped and I got swarmed by HORD, Jens, and DiL.

After We pushed Jens into the Northwest, and they gave all their mines to XPND, we found out how shaky our position was. We couldn't kill anyone, as another group would come up behind and try to kill us while we did. Almost everyone was plotting against us in some way or another, and we had proof that it was happening. Some time in here an inconclusive war was fought with XPND that was stopped way too early. Then MW attacked TMF due to their server long war with TBD coming to a head. HORD jumped in to defend TMF. We didn't want to become involved in the conflict, but then a message by Colonel Saizen was recovered due to Beer, of them planning a backstab against us, so we gated down and smashed them.

Now, the start of the deciding war.
I was against attacking XPND, it was not the smartest move to make even though XPND practically asked to get attacked by their troop movements. I believed that killing Jens should have been our main priority since they were starting to slowly push me back right before war was declared. When war was declared, I was in my spawn area just barely slowing Jens down. Then HORD declared war. Then AOD. Then PA. Then MW(not important). I managed to get back to the hive from that far behind enemy lines, and now we have been fighting ever since.

Now, this second war with Jens never ended. It has been going for 1300 ticks now while the most recent XPND war has been going on for 600.


Oh, btw; I'm the SiN player that started down here:
N:11876 E:18800



Players that have been in the SiN alliance:
Moridin
Sigmund/Sinister(original leader)
Aulpay
Jaremir
Elric - stabbed on orders and returned later(replaced Ranger and led for a short bit)
Skizzy
Messy Jessy(Became Leader later after Sigmund died for the third time)
MasterZaros(replaced TheKing or Gir)
Dolkar(replaced TheKing or Gir)
NeXuS - replaced
Gir - replaced
TheKing - replaced
Ranger - stabbed
Lush - stabbed
BeerBellyBob/pepSins(replaced NeXuS)

This basically says that half of our original group either stabbed us or went inactive to be kicked and conquered. The other half was mostly players who came back to BD and found eachother on the forums.

As I see it, this war is just a bunch of hypocrites mad that they were being outplayed by people who hadn't played in 2-4 years.


Last edited by Moridin119 on Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:15 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: The Deciding war, and the fate of F4
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:33 am 
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^^^^^

Homer alert....


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