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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:35 pm |
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:02 pm |
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Snake, you are a newb Im gonna come and kill you for spreading lies Like Admin Joe says, keep off the forums
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 pm |
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KingRonin wrote: Snake, you are a newb Im gonna come and kill you for spreading lies Like Admin Joe says, keep off the forums Correction keep flames off teh forums! dont put words in my mouth i didnt say ;P
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:20 pm |
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He gave you the games basic math right there...If you need more of an explanation your and Idiot...just saying...I've jumped 100 power in F5 era2 in 53 ticks to be exact...gathering 25 conquers and building over 150 heavy plus the workers...so if you look at everything its possible in multiple ways...
That boost you saw...Is what us vets call TEAMWORK...Don't be suprised if you see others in the alliance boost in power out of no where...We did it in F5. Its a very smart tactic late into the round...it varys in the beginning on whether or not its good...
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:14 pm |
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Random wrote: He gave you the games basic math right there...If you need more of an explanation your and Idiot...just saying...I've jumped 100 power in F5 era2 in 53 ticks to be exact...gathering 25 conquers and building over 150 heavy plus the workers...so if you look at everything its possible in multiple ways...
That boost you saw...Is what us vets call TEAMWORK...Don't be suprised if you see others in the alliance boost in power out of no where...We did it in F5. Its a very smart tactic late into the round...it varys in the beginning on whether or not its good... I don't think there is any conquer to throw in for power, which I may be severely wrong, I don't have any view but my colony so I can't say Also, HINI crashed with SoLD as I read, so SoLD gets wreckage, ok. A lot of SoLD low powered, but why send all resource to Mistress, unless you say they are all inactive to play and give their most active the resource, ok then. The colony still huge, even more than the one that haven't rebuild as fast and are still tiny colony, should mean they are building though? Also, think about sending the resource. You will send to the higher overhead when you are lower? Hm...have hard time thinking! Too much numbers Xeeron Your numbers a correct, however it is also by chance and probability that each and every member send resource, which is hard, but as a SoLD family, is doable, but they all each have gained ranks of power themselves so that limits how much they are sending, by looking at their own growths... Im still reading and digesting the post, so that's all I can say, I may have misread, forgive me.
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:40 pm |
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:00 pm |
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Xeeron wrote: You obviously dont play E2, otherwise you'd know better. Fortunately, boosts info is stored so I just looked it up: Boost happened at tick 1578. Next boost happened at tick 1622. Less than 48 ticks apart! hi again :p well look... according to our Battle reports and Events... Mistress lost her squads in tick 1537... first boost after her loss was in Tick 1578 as u said.... thats means after she rebuild her army! 1578 ( boost ) - 1537 ( army loss ) = 41 ticks.. im 200% sure that he rebuild her army... and alot more in LESS than 48 ticks. and i bet Admin joe can confirm that.Now do that calculation again (btw, I am taking your assertion of a jump of 85 power at face value. For all I know you could be lying about this): im 1000% sure that she jumped from around 35 to three silver strips.why would i lie and waste my own time?850 inf. One inf costs 100 or 200 depending on what you build. For rebuilding, you start with no overhead but then get some eventually. Lets be very conservative and say the average was 250. Over head for having 800 soldiers ( infantries ) = 96% lets say she will rebuild with 2:1 ratio range:armour. she would have... 540 ranges + 270 armours = 810 units. 1st 100 ranges = 20k metal 2nd 100 ( 12% ) = 22400 metal 3rd 100 ( 24% ) = 24800 4th 100 ( 36% ) = 27200 5th 100 ( 48% ) = 29600
armours : 100 ( 60% ) = 16000 metal / 100 ( 72% ) = 17200 70 ( 84% ) = 18400 metal. ( we still got 40 ranges with 96% = 15680 ) whole army's price = 166480 of pure metal :p.
So building 850 inf would have cost 212.5k metal. How much metal could she have had? First, you calculated above that she could have gotten 53k from boosting. Of course, each other SoLD member could also have boosted (e.g. by her sending red tokens and them sending back metal): 13*53k= 689k i said this before... sending tokens to ur team mate to get him buy resources then send u back those resources... thats BANABLE.im sure Joe will agree with me Second, from the 2 boosts, SoLD has gotten 168k metal. many members of SoLD had to rebuild too.. not only Mistress.Third, there is also oil in the boost. Since they were rebuilding, they did not need any to move. Lets say half was converted to metal: 1/2*168k*1/4=21k Forth: You always have the metal that is already on your account. It makes sense to save up and use it after the fleet is crashed at lower overhead. You can save up to 30k. Assume an average of 15k saved for each SoLD member and this gives another: 14*15k=210k Same for oil (again, half converted): 1/2*14*15k*1/4=26.25k Fifth, there is non-boost income. SoLD has a relic and 200+ crystals, plus worker income and tax income. It should be fair to assume 300 metal/tick as average for their members. So we have 300*48*14=201.6k There is also oil income. Again, assume half is converted, and assume 200 oil/tick: 1/2*200*48*14=67.2k Ok, sum it all up now: Metal needed: 212.5kMetal she could have gotten: 53k (her boosting) +689k (others boosting) +168k (mass boost metal) + 21k (mass boost oil) +210k (saved metal) + 26.25k (saved oil) +201.6k (income metal) + 67.2k (income oil) =1436.05k metal availableSo to boost up her rank as you assumed she needed LESS THAN 15% of the total metal available to SoLD in that time frame.That is very obviously possible, so stop you crappy slander and shut up now. - Xeeron PS: In the calculation I even forgot 3 methods of income: UFOs, wreckages, and that most fun sort of income: HINI crashing 200 squads into the SoLD OP. That also should add another 100k of metal or so. Snake of aRaBian ThuGzRandom wrote: He gave you the games basic math right there...If you need more of an explanation your and Idiot...just saying...I've jumped 100 power in F5 era2 in 53 ticks to be exact...gathering 25 conquers and building over 150 heavy plus the workers...so if you look at everything its possible in multiple ways...
That boost you saw...Is what us vets call TEAMWORK...Don't be suprised if you see others in the alliance boost in power out of no where...We did it in F5. Its a very smart tactic late into the round...it varys in the beginning on whether or not its good... if u arent playing in E2... in sold or hini.. they u got no idea bout whats going around... keep conquering newbs and thumbs up ;p Admin Joe wrote: hgrvd wrote: !! well i was wondering... how could a player jump from around 35 power to 120 in less than 48 ticks? well lets say that player is a heavy booster. lets do a lil math. light metal cool down = 12 ticks ( 4 times in 48 ticks ) 6k metal * 4 = 24k of metal heavy metal cool down = 24 ticks ( twice ) 12k * 2 = 24k metal emergency = 48 ( once ) 5k metal total = 24 + 24 + 5 = 53k of metal in 48 ticks... with out missing a single tick after cool down and about workers 500 in the same time. dont wanna make this long.. so.. i want to know how Mistress ( SoLD member ) managed to gain around 90 power in less than 48 ticks. btw... some of SoLD members have lost their armies just before mistress lost her... so i wouldnt say that they helped her to rebuild. well.. all i want is... just some explanations -Snake of aRaBian ThuGz I like to point someting out here. You have now sent me very demanding msg for me to explain why Mistress has boost alot in power in a short amount of time... I would ask do not bring your flames on the forums. As i pointed out i have looked into the matter. In no way did mistress or any of the SOLD alliance use any cheating method to boost her power back up. They legitly raised it... If you do not believe me please refer to any other admin to look into the same things i did and they will come out with the same conclusion...
The bickering and flaming among the 2 alliances needs to stop and trust that the admins are keeping CLOSE watch on both alliances for any cheating or farming etc... going on....
HINI and SoLD are 2 very active and good alliances. I wish them both good luck on this era and hope to see many glorious battles take place. Dear joe... i think i was classy in my topic.. never said newbish things or swearing at SoLD or anyone... all i've asked for is some explanations... and im still looking for them
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:08 pm |
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:10 pm |
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sorry :p
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Post subject: Re: impoissable power jump! Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:12 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:26 am Posts: 31
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sorry again
_________________ Alliances OC: WLR,aRaB,RULE,OL - e4,TH,LS... NC: RoL, Noob, OiLF e3 , HINI e2 , KoH E1,G1... Power:230 Most Xtals: 90 Relics Captured: tens Highest Rank: 1
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